No, having people comment secretly on my YouTube video is not “persecution for Christ”! ._. Give me a break! No administrators have deleted my YouTube or WordPress accounts (yet?) so I’m not complaining!
But you know, it really does tell me a lot about you and your hearts. Tell me I have “confirmation bias” but your behavior certainly does make me feel more secure in my belief that even the most “moral” atheists (you know, the college professor types) are total hypocrites.
So here’s the story – Zoe and Bruce both blogged on my first YouTube video, and an attempt was made (via broken links) to keep me from finding out (since if you have incoming links from a site, the system informs you that you’ve been blogged about). God decided otherwise as I explain in the video. (Praise God.)
So here is my short and to-the-point response on camera, and what follows is a more individual response to some of the concerns raised in people’s blog comments.
The weird thing is, if I were going just on this video, I’m not sure I’d believe any of his statements. There’s no passion in what he believes — he’s saying all these things, but it’s delivered in a very flat way. I don’t even get a sense that he’s all that attached to the God he’s speaking about.
This boy is frightening. […] Again, no emotion is involved, no passion. There is a disconnect, a cognitive dissonance. […] I wonder if his parents are aware of just how far out their son has flown? I wonder if he is duplicitous with them by keeping up a relatively normal front – lies in the service of his lord. I wonder if they’ve seen his videos? If so, do they approve?
I just so happen not to show a great deal of emotion in my face. So what? You judge by appearance (John 7:24). But if you get to know me after a while, you will see that the emotion is there. It just flashes by very quickly. And, no I’m not lying to my atheist parents; they are aware of why I came home (they had to drive me home, actually). I read Luke 9:57-62 to them on the phone when I was at college.
I am going to wear my amateur psychologist hat and say that this kid has some sort of mental illness or personality disorder. And as such, he has the potential to become a cult leader. [Embarrassing sentence censored.] I am unqualified to label him a psychopath, but he does have the same attitude as some individuals who go on killing sprees for God.
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I tell you, the faith made me crazy, but this kid is nuts. He lost it. If I were a Christian, I would claim that he is demon possessed. Wow!
Baritenor said:
This boy is frightening. I hate to say it, but he does in fact remind me of depictions of nutball killers on TV cop shows.
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But all it takes is a handfull of these god’s warriors as we’ve learned the hard way from radical islam. Couple this kind of radicalism with a few things that go bang and boom, and you’ve got death at your door.
When a deranged man claims he is about to kill you for “God,” arguing as an atheist obviously won’t help you; your reason (so-called) will certainly not get through to him. I suggest, both for your sake and for his, that you quote the Bible to him. A killing spree for “God” is the opposite of the gospel (Matthew 26:47; 2 Corinthians 10:3-5), and besides, mental derangement is indicative of a lost state (Isaiah 26:3; Romans 1:28). Physical earthly weapons may have their place sometimes (self-defense in non-persecution contexts, Luke 22:36), but my Lord’s Kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36). So no, it is not “a small jump to becoming a man willing to kill an abortion doctor in the name of saving the unborn” (Bruce’s blog post). That would require a disavowal of Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace.
The “demon-possessed” argument is also false if you can’t back it up with Scripture (I know you don’t believe, but you claim that you used to, so you should still know some of it). The religious establishment and the crowds who followed in their destructive ways claims Jesus (or John) had a demon or was demonic many times over (Matthew 9:34; 11:18-19; 12:24; John 7:20; 8:48, 52; 10:20).
Lorena said:
Also crazy is that he’s saying all Christians have to be united and do the right thing, but what is the right thing? To follow the gospel of Joshua? “Because if they don’t, they’re gonna go to hell,” he said. And I asked, “How do you know that?”
Ironically, what is thought to be Jesus’ original Hebrew/Aramiac name (Yeshua/Yehoshua), if translated more consistently into English (not going through the hoops of Greek and Latin), would be Joshua. So yeah, lol, you have to follow the gospel of Joshua (i.e. Jesus Christ)! And yes, all Christians have to be united (1 Corinthians 1:10), and are united (in doctrine) via the power of the Holy Spirit (1 John 2:27). If you’re divided against me, you’re divided against the Word (1 John 4:6). I do not exalt myself but the Helper who works in me (John 14:26).
Bruce said:
He is not unusual in Fundamentalist circles. Very common thinking and methodology.
Preachers feed these kids from the pulpit, through books, and online sermons. (not much different than extreme Muslims in the middle east) Every preacher loves to have devoted followers.
Is there a mental aspect? Perhaps. I had to be honest about my own life. What drew me to this kind of thinking? Certainly part of it was nurturing. It was how I was raised. Yet, there was a mental component that drew me to extreme fundamentalist thinking. A need to be right. A need for respect. A desire to be in charge. A desire to be an authority everyone looked to.
Fundamentalist and Evangelical religionists love such devotees.
Who is this who darkens counsel by words without wisdom (Job 38:2 NKJV)? “Fundamentalist and Evangelical religionists” do not love me because I hate them (Psalm 119:104). They will lie down next to you in torment (Isaiah 50:11; Matthew 23:33).
Zoe said:
I think it’s safe to say that he’s a disciple of a man named Darwin Fish. Other Christians consider Mr. Fish to be a cult leader.
I wonder about his parents as well. As long as he is under the spell of Darwin Fish, he’s probably lost to this mindset.
Baritenor said:
Again, one wonders if the Reverend Mr. Fish would be happy to see how he and perhaps others have affected Joshua? Would he be shocked or proud? Would watching Joshua’s videos shake him up or would he consider Joshua one of his successes? [and this paragraph was then followed by many idle words, Matthew 12:36]
Why, Zoe, do you consider the opinions of “Other Christians” to suddenly be valid after you have disavowed Christianity? You should simply see for yourself, that his practices are no more “cult”-like than St. Paul’s; actually, I believe most other churches are cult-like in their abusive practices (e.g. see a real-life example of a church trying to “devour widows’ houses,” Matthew 23:14).
And, Baritenor, regarding what Fish thinks of me, he would neither be shocked nor proud (he is, as far as I can tell, not naive enough to react that way). I have been in contact with them; some in his fellowship is aware of my activities but their current position is essentially “no comment.” Although I am young as you can see, I am nevertheless a young man (18), so I make my own decisions about how I follow God. Unlike cults, they are aware of my impressionability; so, they are purposely doing what they can not to influence me, as one of them admitted to me. If I have the Spirit of God, I don’t need them. But I can certainly testify that I have great love for God’s true ministers and great hatred for the ministers of Satan disguised as ministers of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:15).
I think that covers it. Other stuff I didn’t quote is frankly a lot of psychobabble… You need to stop judging by appearance and start loving your neighbor [I am your neighbor] as yourself. That’s all I have to say.
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